The Walking Dead may have been the inspiration of Walker Stalker Con, held in Boston Aug. 22 and 23. But given how violent and crazy Breaking Bad was, it made sense that two of that show's stars joined Walking Dead stars in the weekend festivities. Though one show is set in the world of humans and one in the world of zombies, both hit AMC shows had plenty of bloodshed, non-stop action and killer ensemble performances that drew in millions of fans.
Thus, besides the many Walking Dead actors who attended, Breaking Bad stars RJ Mitte (Walter White Jr.) and Giancarlo Esposito (Gustavo "Gus" Fring) also appeared at the convention. The two actors participated in their own panel, and were available at their own booths to sign autographs and take photos with the fans.
TheCelebrityCafe.com had an opportunity to talk with RJ Mitte about his experience on the show and how it's affected his career. Giancarlo Esposito unfortunately was not taking interviews at the time, but he had plenty to share with fans during the panel.
Below are both the private interview with Mitte and some of the questions from the panel.
RJ Mitte interview
TheCelebrityCafe: How did it feel being part of something as big as Breaking Bad?
RJ Mitte: To us, it wasn't big. It was just a project that we loved and that we were creating and it just kept evolving. People really liked it and I'm lucky that we had it and I made amazing friends, amazing people that were part of my life, intricate parts of my life and it's a beautiful thing.
TCC: Did you expect the show to be that popular when you started?
RJM: No, like I said, we were just doing it and then it just kept growing and one thing led to another. You can never know when you do a project how far it will grow.
TCC: How did it change things for you?
RJM: It gave me a career. I think that's the biggest thing — it gave me opportunities to do what I do. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Breaking Bad. This industry is not a fun industry if you're not doing what you love and I love being other characters and evolving, and being different people. This is a thing that I love but I would never do it again if it wasn't for Breaking Bad.
TCC: Switched at Birth and Breaking Bad are very different. Do you prefer one genre over others?
RJM: I like any genre. I like to work so that's my thing.
TCC: What's next for you?
RJM: I'm in the middle of shooting a movie called Triumph. It's about high school wrestling and a kid that doesn't really get many opportunities. It takes place in the 80s. It's gonna be a good story. We're in the middle of filming, we're on day 10 right now, so we're just chugging along.
Questions from the panel (questions are paraphrased)
Moderator: Giancarlo, you've had such an amazing career... is there one role you're most proud of?
Giancarlo Esposito: I always say I love the role I'm doing now. Certainly, there's so many revolution fans here, gotta give it up for that show. I love all the characters I've created. Most recently I have the film Scorch Trials coming out, it's the second movie in the Maze Runner series. I play a character named Jorge and the biggest question people have for me is are you a bad guy are you a good guy. You'll be interested to see in the movie. That's my latest character, so of course it becomes one of my favorites because it's different than all of the others. Over the years you play a lot of different roles and it's nice to get a role that it's not only villainous, but also funny, but also morphs within the movie and becomes somebody else.
Moderator: It's fun to see how your energy changes with different roles, does it turn you on to do different things?
GE: Oh yeah, it's always great. It's like coming to a con. What I love about cons is seeing guys who have done their makeup (points out someone who looks like he has half a face). I like the stories people tell about making their costumes. The great thing about cons is that people come to have fun, live out some of their greatest fantasies and meet some of the folks they see on TV who they're nervous to meet, they never thought they'd ever meet them, and basically just have fun with it. That's sort of like with my roles, if I do something different every time, I'm gonna be happy.
Moderator: Another project you've got coming up is The Jungle Book?
GE: Yeah, I collaborated with John Favreau. He was our director on Revolution and then I did a commercial with him for Destiny, the game, and then he called me for The Jungle Book and that's going to come out April 8. And the interesting thing that people really like is that the boy is real and all the other animals in the Rudyard Kipling story are all nominated. So it's going to be a fun, very delicious movie.
Moderator: Will the animals look real?
GE: I can say that it will really resemble the jungle and these animals will be really as frightening as they were when they jumped off the pages.
Moderator: Is it weird doing voice acting because you're saying your lines to no one?
GE: For this kind of feature film they set up all these cameras almost like they're doing a 3D shoot of you on the mics so they can take your mannerisms and put them in the animated animal that you're playing. So it's a little more complicated than it used to be...
They really want your facial expressions to be yours as a human. They can make the wolf look as mean as possible through body language but they want the facial relationship to you to be human so they actually want your humanity drawn on the wolf.
Moderator: What if you two played each others' parts?
RJM: I would love to but I think we were cast for the right reasons and we had fun doing it. I loved my part but Giancarlo, his part was amazing. I would not want to change it for the world. I could do it but it wouldn't be what Giancarlo brought to that... We're two vastly different people in two different directions but he has this way of being scary and a lot of people come up to me and say he's very scary. I'm like no, he's the nicest guy ever. He doesn't seem scary to me but he's feared.
Moderator: Giancarlo, do people treat you differently since they maybe only know you as Gus?
GE: Absolutely. People are deferential all the time in public, especially if I look like I'm not in the mood. I got up on an airplane to go to the bathroom once and this lady was in line and I walked up and she (frightfully) said 'you can go, you can go.' I'm like 'no, are you okay, if you're in line-' and she's like 'no, no it's ok Gus.' I don't think she wanted me behind her.
Fan comment: RJ, thank you for the stuff you do with Shriner's [Hospitals for Children]... you should be praised. (RJ Mitte has mild cerebral palsy and does a lot of community work related to that disability, as well as other social outreach work.)
RJM: Shriner's is amazing and I wouldn't be able to do what I do today if it wasn't for them. I'm lucky to have the knowledge that my disability has given me... the thing is you have to take everything with a grain of salt and learn from what we're given, what God has given us. Everything is a path we have to grow on and I'm lucky to have what I have...
I'm lucky enough that Breaking Bad gave me a platform to speak on so many different aspects of what this world is, the human condition. I work with quite a few agencies... It's amazing to have this. Everyone in this room has the opportunity to have an impact, not just an impact on their own life or parents' lives but what other people will see of you... I'm lucky to be in a position that people see me and I try to always give a great lead and an example of how I feel, how I should live my life in what I'm able to do. I can get out there and have a big impact on very little things. It doesn't take a lot to change someone's life.
Moderator: Where can people go to learn about all the good work you do?
RJM: The thing is it's not so much about what I'm doing. Find what you love, what you care about, what you're aspiring to be and do. Anyone can go work for organizations and be like I'm making an impact but the thing is truly caring about that organization and wanting to have not just an impact but also to make it part of your life. I work with [organizations] very closely and I'm always really involved, even when I'm not I stay in touch with them. I feel like a lot of people go join an organization just to say they're working on that. But the thing is find what you love and what you care about... what's important to you and what's affecting your life and your world. It heightens that impact in that way. We all have different paths, different things we care about so find the things you can really care about, find an organization or facility, whatever it is and get involved because you really can see different things, see the world for what it is. There's amazing aspects to it but it also has this darkness and we can change that.
Moderator: Every time the camera wasn't rolling it seems Bryan [Cranston] was a goofball. From your standpoint did you have to stay separated on set to maintain the tension and coldness between your characters?
GE: For me, television is such a fast medium. I just finished four films in a row, I mentioned that Maze Runner is coming out but I also did Money Monster with George Clooney and The Long Home with James Franco and we have a lot of time on those. You do a page or two a day in movies. On TV you do six pages a day. So I would stay quiet because there's no time to ramp things up and if i stay in that space [of Gus] between scenes, then I don't have to ramp back up to get ready, I'd just be in that space, I could live that character more fully. Because I was in and out of Breaking Bad. I would go for four days, periods at a time, shoot all my stuff and then be gone. I was there less time, so I tend to stay in my own little world a little bit more so everything I do when the camera is rolling is reflective of who the character is. But again, it was different for me because I came in two days per episode and would leave whereas others were there for all eight days. It afforded a little more time to play around, do what they wanted to do.
Fan question: How do you feel about the moment Gus killed Victor?
GE: I liked [that episode] because it felt like — Gus was a great delegator, a great business man, he covered his tracks and also took care of his family, his business family, he protected them. So people often ask me why Gus did that. The real reason was that Victor exposed himself. He was [at a murder scene], he was seen. That would have exposed everyone else. It was a great moment for me because Gus finally got the chance to do something, actually do his own dirty work. And it shows he was completely capable of doing that and I knew that scene was being written without words, no talking at all except "get back to work." It's a great way for people to really see that Gus was the real deal, he was not only a good business man, delegator but really despicable in his actions. But behind it is a hero moment because he's protecting everybody else and not exposing the business. So it's a very important turning point for Gustavo in Breaking Bad.
RJM: I was actually there that day too and it looked amazing. There was a couple shots they should have used. You did it a few times, there was one everyone was around the monitor just staring at it, no one would stop staring, we were just enamored. There was a creepy power over you where you just sucked the air out of the room, it was amazing.
Fan question: You guys worked with so many great actors on Breaking Bad. Did you have any favorites?
RJM: We were really an ensemble cast, that was what's really amazing. Not everyone was in every shot but I enjoyed the Bryan and Anna [Gunn] scenes we had. It was really amazing and it's funny because... you'd be with these people for shooting one scene for like 9 hours. One time we shot one scene for one day, it was 12 pages long. Just insane, coverage, coverage, shot, shot, shot. To do that, to have everyone get along and have fun and still be able to give the same intensity, the same energy is definitely a special aspect. Anyone on Breaking Bad I'd love to work with again on different projects... they're professional, they know what they're doing. Everyone on the show loves what they do. You can't be in this industry and hate it because you will be miserable. It's not a fun industry to not be happy in and not love your characters, love what you're able to do. But we were a very family-oriented show... a crew of 500, between 20 and 30 actors, recurring guest stars — I'd work with any of them again. We were very lucky to have everyone that made this show what it is.
GE: For me, I want to talk about all the unsung heroes like Jeremiah Bitsui [who played Victor]. Jonathan Banks [who played Mike Ehrmantraut] is having his time now on Better Call Saul. You work with a family of actors who are an ensemble, you get used to the rhythm, who they are. Certainly the writers sometimes give you really great scenes. I had great stuff with Bryan and then great stuff with Aaron Paul [who played Jesse]. Everyone becomes really part of your family, you are able to create certain music with them more than others. This is a show where you were always trying to outdo each other. It's hard for me to call favorites when every actor is so good.