Oprah Winfrey is defending the Kardashian family, who she interviewed back in 2012, after Rebel Wilson’s comments that the family isn’t known for any talent and she doesn’t respect that.

During an interview with Australia’s KIIS FM radio show, the Pitch Perfect 2 star told hosts Kyle and Jackie O she’s “against everything” they stand for, adding, “they’re not famous for talent. I worked really hard to get where I’ve gotten to.”

Winfrey appeared on the same radio show this week and she was asked about those comments, but she took a surprising stance.

"I interviewed the Kardashians two years ago and I couldn't believe how hard they work," she said. "People don’t understand that, people think, 'Oh, if a television camera’s just following you, then that’s just easy.’ To really create a reality series that looks like something’s actually happening, it means you have to be on all the time."

Winfrey went on to say she couldn’t believe that after seven hours of filming for her special, they then went on and filmed “another seven hours after I left” for their show. “No matter who you are, that is work," she said.